Seo

[MK Printing]

Hello peeps

Next year I want to be very high in the Google ranking for search terms such as flyers, business cards, stationery, letterheads etc etc. Who here is able to help me get high on Google?

I have had people say they can get me high with such terms as "litho printed business cards with delivery and VAT" buts lets face it how many people enter that?

If you are able to help me then please drop me an email at info@mkprinting.co.uk, also take a look at my website www.mkprinting.co.uk to see what you think.

Thanks

Matt

[fisicx]

Nobody can promise you the number 1 position. But if you want help it's going to cost you money.

Advice is free (articles by the thousand all over the web) but if you want specific help the you are going to have to put your hand in your pocket and pay for that help.

But looking at your site I can already see a load of things you can do on your own - basic seo techniques will help you improvre you ranking, but if you want to get to number 1 for your search terms expect to pay at least a couple of hundred pounds for profesional help.

How much are you prepared to pay?

[squalid]

I have just spoken to someone on the phone who has paid a SEO company £1,000 to optimise their site. What they have done is put up a few pages with content on. the content they have put on is in the form of a .jpg - ie words on a picture.

The point here really is that it confirms what I always say to anyone asking - never pay for SEO. You never know what you are getting.

re the MK printing site, there is alot you can do that is the basics of SEO yourself.

I would start with removing any text that you have in graphics - your header nav, your home page central nav and the "welcome to MK printing" bit in the middle of page.

I would loose the MK printing company name in the page titles - without it your site should still come up in searches for MK printing cause of content. Your page titles are all very similar, try and rename them for relevant searches - but also ensure that if you have named a page eg ' Big pink donkey' that you also have information on the page regarding the big pink donkey.

All of your menu navs that will go to something people will search ' eg flyers' lead to pages that are totally graphic - re do in text and try to maybe seperate page into

Flyers -

printed flyers are good etc etc flyers can be used for etc ( so a brief intro)

then pics

then prices

[fisicx]

This one of those occasions (again) where I disagree with squalid.

It is worth paying for SEO. The problem is that good SEO is built into effective web design. And that's what you pay for.

But the advice given is very valid. Except that your chosen keywords are highly competitive. So if you want to rank at number one you have got to beat everybody else who are also trying to be number one.

What's more important to you, being number 1 or increasing your conversions?

[squalid]

This one of those occasions (again) where I disagree with squalid.

all i said was that i tell people not to pay for SEO - and the reason being that you dont know what you are getting. I tell people who ask me this because I have yet to come across a genuine company that will bring results (not saying there isnt - saying i know of none) and if they are asking me - then they dont know the score and so they would be best to save their money and look at what they can do themselves to improve their website.

But totally agree that nothing will beat a website that is built with the search engines in mind.

So i am disagreeing that we are disagreeing.

[Ender]

If you want to be ranking next year then you should start soon. There are decent companies charging, typically a £500 - £1000 setup fee, which includes a website "tweak" and help in setting up a backlink campaign, but that won't get you to #1 for "business cards" never mind the other terms. You're looking at around £2000 a month for that keyword list and the ROI just wouldn't be worth it in my view.

Why don't you join a dedicated seo forum and learn what a campaign can and can't do and how targeting alternatives can work if you do your research properly. Digitalpoint and seo-guy are my favourites.

Cheers,
Ender.

[roy]

Peter, who runs this forum, is too modest to mention this himself so I'll do it for him:

TotalwebSEO

[JustOneUK]

Property = location, location, location

SEO = links, links, links

SEO is worth paying for if someone is going to run a link campaign for you on an ongoing basis. It can get tedious and not everyone has the time to be submitting their site to directories, posting in forums all the time and finding relevent sites for link building.
The on-page SEO is a simple rule of reading & applying the basics that can be forund on any/many seo websites.

James.

[fisicx]

SEO in NOT about links, links, links.

SEO is a marketing tools and one method of attracting the attention of the search engines is to embark on a link building strategy where the aim is to gain inbound links from relevant and high ranking websites. An SEO strategy that concentrates on link building is doomed to failure in the long term.

Read the search engine webmaster guidelenies (they all have them) and not one will advocate link-building as a primary objective.

And don't bother with directory submission - it just isn't worth the effort.

[JustOneUK]

Originally Posted by fisicx

SEO in NOT about links, links, links.

SEO is a marketing tools and one method of attracting the attention of the search engines is to embark on a link building strategy where the aim is to gain inbound links from relevant and high ranking websites.

like I said, it's about links.


No one can stop websites from linking to you if they want to, it is the very nature of the "web"
If you have 1 million websites linking to yours with the anchor text "soft cheese" then you can pretty much assume you will rank well for the term "soft cheese" regardless of whether or not you even have that term on your page, if you do...even better.
There is a certain amount of SEO that has to be done on your actual webpage although at the end of the day you can have the best webpage in the world but if no-one links to your site you will hardly ever be found.

James.