SEO, google, Peter's videos

kingofdawn · **SEO, google, Peter's videos - some questions (long)** 23-04-2007, 09:45 PM

Hi,

I am trying different things regarding site optimisation etc. and this is learning from mistakes rather than doing the proper job since I am relatively new to the whole SEO subject. Peter's videos which I purchased a while ago are really good for somebody like me who is at the beginning of their journey. By the way, the idea of creating videos rather than writing an ebook is excellent and I wish my teachers in the past had used similar tone of voice like Peter does in his videos. Well done! And thanks.

Anyway, I am going of the main subject. I have created a page that is hopefully optimised in terms of keywords (according to Peter's advises). Google has crawled it (even twice). Now, when I check which pages are indexed (site:mysite.com) it does not show that page. It shows other pages but not this particular one (it is unique in terms of content, title, keywords etc.). Does it take "a while" to actually add crawled page to the pot of indexed ones? What is that time? Does it apply to other search engines?

Another thing is Peter's page www.118diet.co.uk - what is the purpose of this website? I mean - is it adsense website, affiliate or the purpose is just email collection and then sending/upselling stuff? I would appreciate an honest answer or indication.

Regarding pages layout - content at the begining and the navigation menu on the right hand side in order to push the content before links. If you are using tables as your page layout that is the case I suppose. The question is whether using css helps? For example, you have <body> and then the content and the definition of your navigation menu at the end of the file (using <div>) but the page will be displayed correctly (i.e. navigation clasically on the left hand side). Is it "OK"?

That is it for now. I have more questions that need to be clarified but I will post them in a different thread probably...

Thanks,
S.

peterjhale · **Re: SEO, google, Peter's videos - some questions (long)** 23-04-2007, 10:55 PM

Hi and welcome.
Thanks for the kind comments about the vids (www.totalwebseo.com) Now - for your questions :

- how do you know the page has been crawled ?

- doing a site:yourwebsite.com and site:www.yoursite.com are different so check them both to see what pages you have indexed - if they have different counts then you'l need to do a "301 redirect"

- I had a site that had the navigation on the left and the SERPS were awful - I flicked it over to the right and got much better results

As for my 118diet site - it's for testing and adsense

kingofdawn · **Re: SEO, google, Peter's videos - some questions (long)** 23-04-2007, 11:29 PM

- how do you know the page has been crawled ?
I can track what visitors were doing when they visited my website. I have discovered that pages are visited by somebody with the DNS address of "crawl-66-249-66-113.googlebot.com" and my conclusion was this is one of the google crawlers. Although the behaviour is strange (well, unexpected) because that "visitor" visits few pages but the time interval between each impression can be 30 secs or 2 minutes or 2 hours which is a bit strange.

- doing a site:yourwebsite.com and site:www.yoursite.com are different so check them both to see what pages you have indexed - if they have different counts then you'l need to do a "301 redirect"
Hmmm, that's the case - different pages seem to be indexed under different "domains" (www.* vs .*) but still that particular page is not there. Will do the 301 trick.

- I had a site that had the navigation on the left and the SERPS were awful - I flicked it over to the right and got much better results
Did you use css for the lauoyt or just <table> tags?

As for my 118diet site - it's for testing and adsense
I was right then

Thanks for your help.
S.

fisicx · **Re: SEO, google, Peter's videos - some questions (long)** 24-04-2007, 12:04 AM

The robots from all the search engines follow a very complex algorithm. Some bots just read the document head, some follow links, some read the content, other images. It may be that the bot follows a link, makes a few notes then comes back later to get new information. It could be that the robot is looking for specific information. Nobody knows for sure.

The css/table argument has been raging for years. Don't think there will ever be a winner. But the important thing to consider is the logical structure of the document. The robots read the document stripped of all structural code and styles. If you use tables extensively the logical structure disappears. If you use CSS the logical structure remains - H1, navigation, breadcrumbs, paragraphs etc. Human visitors on the other hand couldn't care less about your document structure, what they need is the information they seek as soon as they land on the page. Take a look at this topic over on cre8asite the discussion got quite intense after while.