Copying other people's websites

[Teresa2084]

T6

It is because I have been ripped off like many new businesses that I dont trust now until trust has been earnt and it is not down to me to just trust you, its down to you to prove you can be trusted and new businesses that dont know whats out there and are easily stung need to know how easy it is to be stung. Your the investor of businesses and your in a position of trust but many investors rip people off.

I do worry for new business because i didnt have the benefit of being able to go to people for advice and help and it cost me dearly and i would not wish that on any new business.

[Teresa2084]

ps

It was twice i was ripped off and not 3 times and i have admitted to it in here very openly so others learn from it.Thats the whole idea. We learn from each others experiences and if i were to sit in this forum and of said nothing and it happened to someone else, id feel responsible. I dont want any other small business going through what I did.

I started my business because my baby died as a result of a hospital error and my original site was done as it was my only distraction. So when i was ripped off out of £6000 by a web master it did upset me and was a blow. But because i didnt have any support or know where to go and was not only engrosed in my loss but also being ripped off, i went to another company whom was worst than the first and he went as far as sticking the grim reaper in my site over 30 times and used my babys death to try and force me to hand over my site to him as he wanted it and wanted to do what ever he could to get it. I was so distraught that I tried to commit suicide and was in intensive care and the person that was doing such bad things to me, was the investor.He was a web company/investor. He still has some control of my site and was stealing from its payments so i had to stop the payment section and i cant have the site on disc as he wont hand it over and he wont give me the ftp details either and yet its 100% mine. But the site is still running and working just its free.

So yes i will openly tell people my experience because i wouldnt want to see them suffer the way i did and if my experience makes them take more care then good.

[Pipsp73]

Oh dear. Teresa ... you never do learn, do you?

You were singing from the same hymn sheet 2 years ago !! When are you gong to realise that you can't force your opinions/needs/wants (be they business/personal/emotional) on other people? Poor T6 !!!! - he got all your defensiveness and unrelated grief purely and simply because he didn't want to get involved in your site !! Where have I heard that one before?

Firstly, let me give you some good, solid, sound advice. People in business do not want or need to know about any individuals personal life history, however tragic it may be. They are just not interested. They are in business purely and simply to make money, which presumably is the reason you are in it. Keep your dialogues or monologues strictly professional and to the point.

The second piece of advice I would give you is about your extensive use of the word "trust". There is no such thing in business. That is why anyone with a modicum of intelligence will always enter into a WRITTEN contract that protects them. So to ask someone to prove they are trustworthy (as you did with T6) is asking them to enter into a contract. They, on the other hand, will not enter into a contract if they ARE NOT INTERESTED in what you have to offer.

There is no legal obligation on their part to divulge to you any aspect of their business that they are not prepared to divulge , just so that they can take up a FREE offer, such as extensively advertised on here by yourself, for a free listing. If you require such priveleged information as a pre-requisite of registering on your site then it should state so in your Terms and Conditions. Presumably, you have some? and the registrant would need to agree to those prior to registration ??

I noticed in another posting you mentioned the word "presidence" - if you are as knowledgable on the law as you have always stated then at least give us mere mortals the courtesy of using the correct spelling !! The use of words, grammar and spelling are all entirely relevant when writing about any element of the law, as Gary Slapper of The Times Law Section (Tuesdays) and The Open University will tell you, should you wish to ask him or any other legal PROFESSIONAL.

As for your postings on here about www.trudates.com I do wish you would get your facts right !! It DID NOT cost £10,000 to develop the web site. I have forgotten the amount of times I have told you that! Neither was it ever marketed for sale. In your legal experience, have you ever heard of libel? It's a word used to describe a civil action taken against a person or body that has printed mistruths and lies about another person or body that may damage the plaintiff's (the person initiating the civil action) personal or business charachter.

As for the site you allege is 100% yours but you don't have the ftp for, then why not take him to court as you obviously have so much legal knowledge in setting precedents, it should be just a walk in the park for you! I do understand how you must have felt though. Probably much the same as me, when I was being emotionally pressurised and manipulated by a female my ex-biz partner had met online (who happened to live in Essex) to hand over my share in the business to her. It waas at the ealy stages of the development of the site and the business and on paper at least, it showed massive financial potential. However, unlike yourself it seems, I WAS legally protected.

Having said all of that, I have looked at your 123trades site and it seems as though you have used a professional at last and not just someone you have met on the web. I just hope that you have entered into a legally binding contract with him/her/them instead of relying, as you have done in the past, on someone you have only met on the internet and accepting their "word" as gospel. However, we can all be excused naievty in business, including you. It's a learning curve for all of us. What is more important is that we learn from our mistakes and use them as a positive, and not a negative, influence in our future decision making process.

For anyone else that is reading this, please note that I am not in business and do not intend to be in the forseeable future. I am only on this site for ideas for research into my Law Degree - but couldn't resist the temptation to finally be able to respond to Teresa !!! And, as Teresa quite rightly says, if anyone can benefit from my personal experiences to protect themselves in business (or any other ventures) then I have a moral obligation to give them the benefit of that personal experience. So if you want to ask a question, please do !!!

Originally Posted by Teresa2084

ps

It was twice i was ripped off and not 3 times and i have admitted to it in here very openly so others learn from it.Thats the whole idea. We learn from each others experiences and if i were to sit in this forum and of said nothing and it happened to someone else, id feel responsible. I dont want any other small business going through what I did.

I started my business because my baby died as a result of a hospital error and my original site was done as it was my only distraction. So when i was ripped off out of £6000 by a web master it did upset me and was a blow. But because i didnt have any support or know where to go and was not only engrosed in my loss but also being ripped off, i went to another company whom was worst than the first and he went as far as sticking the grim reaper in my site over 30 times and used my babys death to try and force me to hand over my site to him as he wanted it and wanted to do what ever he could to get it. I was so distraught that I tried to commit suicide and was in intensive care and the person that was doing such bad things to me, was the investor.He was a web company/investor. He still has some control of my site and was stealing from its payments so i had to stop the payment section and i cant have the site on disc as he wont hand it over and he wont give me the ftp details either and yet its 100% mine. But the site is still running and working just its free.

So yes i will openly tell people my experience because i wouldnt want to see them suffer the way i did and if my experience makes them take more care then good.

[TWD-Tony]

I'm not 100% sure why this thread hasn't been picked up on before by us mods but it has turned a simple copyright question into a one-on-one arguement, please do not use the teneric forums for your personal arguements

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