Improving ranking for a forwarding site.

[Tyneman]

I'm in no way whatsover a website whizz, but nevertheless I'm still trying to make a living out of it.

Can any experts out there, suggest a way to improve ranking for a forwarding site.

I have a new forwarding domain eplaygaming.com

which goes to an affiliate site evolutioniscoming.com/BETTAWIN

The company I purchased the domain name from lets me use keywords and a title, but only if I use a framed option.

If I use normal ( whatever that is ) I can't.

Is there a right and wrong way to go about this please.

Appreciate any comments.

[fisicx]

The index page for your site contains frames. There is no indexable content and should the spiders actually find the link will dismiss the target page as it looks almost exactly like every other evo page.

So, to answer your question - there is no easy way to to interest the search engines in your website. And all your efforts in link building have come to naught. Google shows over 4000 results for eplaygaming.com but only regards 16 of them as having any worth. And www.eplaygaming.com only returns 8 results.

You offer no value to the visitor and all of the webmaster guidlines issued by the search engines have as their top priority to build and interesting and informative website that peopke will want to visit. Can you identify one single reason why I would want to visit your site?

In any case, the redirect page tells me the site will close on 12th of July.

Sorry to be so blunt but the only one making any money out of the deal is the person who sold you the domain.

[squalid]

See how using your FREE eVo site over the next few weeks could earn you $20,000 in your first month.

cant you use some of your $20,000 per month to improve site ?

[Tyneman]

Thanks for your replies chaps.

The real website doesn't get launched until the pre launch date on the 15th July 2007. And thus the promotional site gets disconnected on or about the 14th.

Don't even know what the brand name is going to be yet. And with over 34,000 downloads of the PDF file on the current website there's going to be an almighty rush to get a domain name that fits the brand name after the 15th.

But as it was called Project eplay and we know the business is going to be based around social networking, skill gaming, blogs etc etc. I took the chance and bought the domain name of Eplaygaming.com.

I thought I'd probably just switch it over to the new site when it's announced.

In answer to Squalid, yeah any money made from the site will be reinvested into promoting it. Some commissions are going to be paid instantly which will be very handy, better than waiting until the end of the month.

Just got to find the best ways........not easy with me being a numpty.

I was never involved with websites until a couple of years ago, so it's been a steep learning curve.

I've learned that securing a domain name for a long period..say 10 yrs increases your chances with the likes of Google, any truth in that do you think ?

[fisicx]

No truth whatsoever. What google does like are sites that have been around for a long time and offer UNIQUE content.

Another problem you are gong to have is getting google interested. You may well have scared off the robots and getting them to revisit may be problematic.

Of course the other issue is the affiliate scheme. If there are (potentially) thousands of sites all competing to promote the same product the chances of any one of them doing well will be slim.

[Tyneman]

Originally Posted by fisicx

No truth whatsoever. What google does like are sites that have been around for a long time and offer UNIQUE content.

Another problem you are gong to have is getting google interested. You may well have scared off the robots and getting them to revisit may be problematic.

Of course the other issue is the affiliate scheme. If there are (potentially) thousands of sites all competing to promote the same product the chances of any one of them doing well will be slim.

Yeah I have that problem with affiliation with another website, the utilities company.

I believe this is going to be built differently which each member having their own turn key site. I'll know more after the 15th.

I know there will be a charge to have this site but it's free for the first 60 days after launch, so I've got that time to suss out the pros and cons.

I suppose the only other way with that type of site is the build from the ground up a completely individual site with links to the selected pages of affliate site ??

[fisicx]

But you will still have the same content as everybody else. I suspect that the whole point of the scheme is to haves thousands of sites all with the same sindicated content linking to the same affiliate sites running the same social media/gaming content. You can have your own blog (whoopee) but what are you going to say?

One supposes it could work but do a search for evo - and see the tumbleweed drifting across your computer. Google just isn't interested.

[squalid]

I'll know more after the 15th.

have you not found out all there is know before signing up and encouraging others to ?

This is just another MLM scheme - all of which i find very hard to get excited about.
If you are serious about making money with websites and online - look for something more genuine and something you can build upon to make a business worth having.

[fisicx]

A bit off topic I know but....

I'm happy to help anyone struggling with their own website - there has usually been an investment of time and money to get the thing up and running and giving them a helping hand is beneficial to all (I often learn things during my investigations).

But to have somebody ask for help on a website whose whole existance relies on some form of get rich quick (with minimal effort) scheme is quite insulting. If you want to make money you need to invest, put your every effort into the business, read every article you can on marketing, website management, search engine optimisation, web sites standards, copywriting, link building and so on. Don't join a forum and expect people who make their living building and managing online businesses to get you out of a self-made fix for free.

End of rant.

[Tyneman]

WOW, sorry it wasn't my intention to upset anyone. I appreciate the answers given, but we'll say no more about it.

I've have looked at website promotion and lost more than my fair share of money on Google aAdwords etc.

Just wasn't sure how it worked with affliate sites and search engines, but you've answered it....thanks.

As for MLM structures, it gets a bad name from a lot of past schemes/ scams but it's a very good structure for the right companies.

Check out TELECOM PLUS ( The Utility Warehouse ) on the London Stock Exchange. It's a total MLM structure. I'll not put my website link in.

That was one company I was hoping to promote online, but's the wrong type of business, too much competition. More a knocking on doors type of biz.

AND also as I now know, affliate links are virtually useless. So that was a waste of time and ( much needed redundancy ) money.

Squalid says:-
have you not found out all there is know before signing up and encouraging others to ?

Yes I have it's in the PDF file on the website, and we also get snippets of info via conference call and newsletters etc.

But it's company sensitive until the 15th.

Squalid says to look for something more genuine.

In June 2006 7.6 million people visited the online games sector ( 28% of the UK population ) the average time playing those games was 1.5 hrs.

I think thats a genuine enough market to be in.

I know it's going to be more than just an affiliate site. I'll be able to set up tournaments ( pool, chuck a penguin, chess, whatever ). I'll even be able to set up the prize amount for winners.

Have a look at a site called King.com.

It's a company that has prize winning for competitions ( as well as free games ). Who do you think gets all the profit from those games.....

Well this a way for members to actually get their own share of the profits for promoting the network and games.

I'll say no more though and wait until after the 15th.

I'll let you know what happens......without promoting though.